Category: Accessible Games
anyone here play stuff like super street fighter IV, mortal kombat, rock band, that kind of thing?
we can discuss anything from the newest games, to character tips, to combos, etc
Now that I'm older and have less time, I'm more of a story-driven gamer. That said I do have a PS3, which I play quite frequently.
haha, what do you play when you have time?
I've got all Playstations but hardly play it much because I've gone totally Blind.
just cuz you've gone totally blind doesn't mean you can't play them, you just gotta adapt to it
I admire anyone who can do that while totally blind. Especially with how ... three dimentional and detailed games are these days. For phiting games and such I think it is easier. As for games, I play a lot of Role-playing games, and interactive adventure games such as Heavy Rain. Some first person shooters like Deus Ex: Human Revolution. I just finished the first episode of The Walking Dead. I think it's somehow based on the TV series with the same name, but I'm not sure how. Anyway it's an adventure game with a pretty involved and well-written story.
i used to play a lot of play station 1 games years ago. world cup, some racing ones, pimble, and resident evil. oh- and i used to have a megga drive. sonnic, mario brothers, all that. but i don't really play video games anymore- i'm more in to brouzer games, such as the kingdom of loathing, or legend of the green dragon sometimes- if i want to kill some time. that game's pretty dull, but it's good for wasting time haha.
I'm playing my way through the ryu ga gotoku series of games, which is actually very very fun
here's a vid of ryu ga gotoku kenzan, which takes place in 1600 japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJQGu3vPfqk
this is actually pretty different than the other rgg games, cuz the rest of them are more unarmed combat than swords, but in this, its all swords
and here's rgg 3, which is present-day and a different story
you'll see what I mean about unarmed combat here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im33L8p1-_A
anyways, enjoy the vids and comment, haha
I always wanted to try some of the more physical fighting games like Boxing and the like, I know sighted people who think there's no reason you can't do it being blind since if you know how to throw and block, you just get into a rhythm of it.
But I am not the fast gamer many are on here: I played that Battle Zone and others, and while the games are cool, you hipsters would be laughing at my scores, I just know it, eyes or no eyes. <smile>
Doesn't look bad, especially the second video. The Japanese voices do nothing for me though, both because I can't understand a word they're saying, and because I really just prefer english.:)
sega learned not to do that after they localized the first one because the english compared to the japanese was so damn horrible and from what I heard that's why it got really low sales, but for 2 3 and 4 they just left it
personally i like the first game more, cuz 2 reasons
I'm a japanese history freak
and I like swords
they're both for PS3 if you're interested, but kenzan was never released here for some reason, so you can grab 3 4 or dead souls which is a zombie spinoff
The funny thing is, I've now adapted myself to playing Nintendo WII and really starting to love the Bowling games, the boxing one and all those ones. I know on Playstation with the Eye Toy game that was really cool to play with for you just have to move your body around.
Years ago when I had my eyesites I used to play a lot of Mario games on Nintendo 64, Pokemon Stadium and all the old Nintendo games.
I would, but the language barrier turns me right off. I want to understand the story.
for 2 3 and kenzan, there's a pretty good faq on gamefaqs, look for the faq by the patrick, for 3 its the only faq there
he's like the ryu ga gotoku god, the guy's been writing these forever, and they're all really detailed in terms of what's going on, check them out if you want
or another way, if you want to have a sighted person read you the subtitles, since i you want to actually play these then you'll need help because there's a lot of running around to do
I haven't gotten my ps3 shipped up to my new residence yet, but when I play, its usually a lot of fighters, soul caliber 5, tekken 6, mortal Kombat... Sometimes I'll play rockband when I am really annoied/angry/don't want to think because even though its not realistic, when you crank the difficulty to expert, you either need to get lost in the music and what's coming down the screen, or you don't make it threw with anything greater than 90 percent.
rock band is always fun, especially when you have friends over
personally i'm looking forward for when the web store is sorted.
my ps3 is at home at the moment but i'm considering bring it up to halls as i spend most of my time there and granted i probably wouldn't play it much, but at least it'd still be there.
rockband? i've heard that it can be played, just not sure on how
at the moment though i'm probably going to get mk 2011 komplete as my online doesn't work and it'd be cheaper, metal gear solid and wwe 13.
seriously if there were ways of getting through menus without so much memorisation, it'd be brilliant.
yes i can eventually memorise a roster of 60 or so guys but i'd love to create guys or equip things, etc.
i'm kind of tempted to try a lotr game on ps3 as well and if the web store ends up working for us, hopefully can get some of the classics back
Oh metal gear solid ... one of my favorite serieses. I really wish gaming for the blind even remotely compared to such a series.
funny part is, MGS1 is actually playable
now hear me out, you might be saying what the hell's this kid BSing about? but just check this
its playable because unlike most modern games,
1: movement, the fact that there's no real turning, that when you move right and left you just turn and start walking, there's no northeast, southwest, that kind of thing
2: you know when you're at a wall because snake stops moving and there's a sound for it
those are the main ones for me, but some more
3: guard footsteps can be heard in first person view mode
4: ultra detailed walkthroughs on gamefaqs, also a partly complete walkthrough on audiogames.net
that's what I can think of for right now, I can make a small demo later if anyone's interested
I could see a game like that being made more audio friendly. Boss fights might be a little challenging, but it could probably be done. Same goes with the second one. I'm into video games primarily for their stories, and one thing that always makes me sad whenever I hear about audio games is how most of them (that I've at least heard of) are completely inconsequential in the narrative department. That's unfortunate, because games like Time Adventures, Blindside and Papa Sangre actually have a great deal of potential.
yeah, I can do a recording up to the first boss whenever I have some time, its not actually too bad once you get used to it
Hell yeah. Here lately I've been playing a lot of Tekken Tag Tournament 2, really enjoying that one. Heihachi Mishima... is dead.
hey, I just started playing that one...
devil jin!
Kyoufu wo oshiete yarou. I'll show you what fear is. Always liked that intro. I miss Devil Kazuya though--he was the original devil.
oh, is that what he says? never could understand that
thanks! haha
only intro I ever fully understood was kazuya's omae ka? my japanese is very limited
No problem. I'm not sure if he does this now, but I know he used to only say that to people he knew, people like Paul and Law. Everyone else got "Kisama ka?"
yeah I think he still does it, don't hold me to that though
also, always tried to figure out, how do you figure out the story in fighting games? eg: plenty of endings in tekken and mortal kombat but how do you know which are cannon?
same in street fighter, I don't know where all the back story comes from but check out the street fighter wiki, huge amounts of info on everybody story wise
There's a lot of different sources you can go to, GameFaqs is good for storyline guides. Admittedly a lot of them are older now though. The Street Fighter Plot Guide I think has its primary home on that site. But for Tekken, I've found a lot of cool stuff on television tropes. I grew up playing Tekken though, so a lot of what we used to find out came from manuals, strategy guides, magazines, etc.
yeah, street fighter though I never found a plot guide anywhere, like there's this cool back story for akuma and gouken, but I never understood where thatinfo was to be found
also playing MGS, sniperwolf is realy annoying....
Also, some companies will release "all about" books for their more popular series, like All About Capcom, or All About Street Fighter that really get into the storylines and things that they can't show during the gameplay. Only problem is they're usually only released in Japan, so we westerners generally don't get them. That's where a good chunk of the info in the Plot Guide comes from, as that guy can apparently read Japanese.
Really interested in the MGS vid. I'm a big fan, of the story at least, never been able to play the games. Which version are you playing, PS1 or Game Cube?
PS1 on my comp using the emulator PSX
I have a choir concert today, but I'll see what I can get done after it if anything, no promises though
at the latest expect it this weekend
its here! as promised, me playing through metal gear solid to the first boss fight and finishing it
I use quicksave a lot in here, which is why things repeat so much
also I go to grab a few items that you don't actually need to finish the game which adds about 10 minutes, but hey when it comes to my games I'm a perfectionist! lol
note for the boss, this is me playing without taking any cheap shots, trying to replicate how I did it my first time playing the game
if I was to do it properly I could do it in maybe half the time at least as I now know how to rebound shots and take advantage of the boss's AI
enjoy people! lem know what you think and if you want more samples
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11419213/MGS%20part%201.mp3
Ah, finally someone else who's a fan of the PS3. My main game is Mortal Kombat. I own tekken, Soul Calavor and the God of war series.
I'm totally blind, but I have become a pro Mortal Kombat player, especially with the latest one that entered into the realm of high level tournaments. Last year, I entered in a 45 people tourney and ended up in the top 8. Mind you, these were all extremely top level Mortal Kombat players. Because of that, I've learned high level combos and strategies. I don't even bother with the fatalities. I've been trying to interest others to the latest MK in high level gaming, but all they want to do is fatalities, instead of putting up a good fight.
So here's a video to showcase some of what I do with Mortal Kombat 9. I'm using the blind swordsman Kenshi. And, you can hear it when I choose him on the character select screen. Enjoy! However, my main in tourneys is Cyrax.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv023FEQXuE
gonna check this out, now I'm curious
I main liu kang whenever I play but I'm not very good
just wondering did you ever think of getting super street fighter IV? its also quite fun
unfortunately I can't record PS3 because I don't have the equipment to do it properly unless I borrowed my brother's comp since he's done game samples before
I tried SSFIV, but I couldn't get into it for some reason. I didn't like the fighting mechanics compared to MK 9. Guess I can try again I suppose because I don't like being close minded about things. And, I could help you if you'd like. Liu is actually one of the easiest characters to master. You only need to be really fast to input his combos and specials. And I wish people would stop focusing on just doing xray moves! the enhanced specials linked into combos do more damage.
nah, I actually find I like SSF more, cuz there's more strategy, its not just comboing
well I mean there is some of that but not as much
also, just saw the video, pretty good! haha except I can't tell who's who because I don't have either character
just wondering did you ever think of hooking up your PS3 to your computer and recording some gameplay samples?
lol, if you see actual tournament strategies, it goes beyond combos, so it's not just combos SO, it's not just a street fighter thing either. Like footsies, crossups, mixups, meter management, offensive and defensive strategies, and so on. That's why MK 9 is so deeply featured in tournaments, not to mention that it will be featured at Evo for the third time in a role.
And, I want to, but don't have the equipment to do so. DO you know what should I go for in terms of hooking up my PS3 to the computer to record gameplay in hq?
Also, I've seen many tournaments where the players do a lot of high damaging combos on SSFIV, so yes, it has a lot of combos like MK 9.
no, what I meant was I like the fact that everything in SSF you have to come up with yourself, where as in MK most people will just use the default strings and juggle a lot
as for recording, if you're going for full graphics and sound, I don't know but audio only you could use the line in port on your computer if it has one combined with an RCA to line in adapter
that's what my brother is using right now to record stuff
Ah okay, may try that. Well, I do have to do graphics and stuff do to tournament reasons. But thanks dude.
Oh and, Mk 9 combos are also custom made. Sounds like you refer more to the 3D games like Deception and Armageddon. On the latest one everyone came up with their own custom made combos. Wonder how much SSFIV costs now. Hmm.
no, what I'm saying though is most people I've played against almost always rely on the default button strings, instead of having to actually come up with custom combos
Ah I see. just casual players then. yeah, I like combining the default strings into better combos. It's badass.
yeah, I'm not very hardcore myself but I do like figuring stuff out and getting better
I've been trying to figure out what kind of play style is kang meant for? I can never judge those unless someone tells me first, then I can sort of imagine it
Kang has tools for zoning, but he's mostly meant to be an offensive character. His projectiles do deal a lot of damage. I'm not a Kang player, but I can give you a feel strats to use Liu against other characters. Matchups.
ug, so I just finished challenge 300....never playing that again unless I have to
if only johnny cage's Xray glitch still worked....
Ugh I know! And what sucks is that the reward is stupid for completing all of those missions. I'm never playing that challenge myself iether. Who did you use? Liu I assume? lol
no I actually spammed scorpion's jumping teleport, back+bp, teleport, spear, forward+bp,fp,bk
bare in mind this is after about 10 losses and the opponents start making mistakes and leaving defense gaps
Ah, nah I know what you mean. The more losses you get, the AI tones down it's defences. And, you could have done this combo.
Hp, HP, XSpere, NJP, Back+bp, dash, hp, hp, teleport, dash hp, hp, bk
Or this one:
Back+bp, dash, hp, hp, teleport, dash, hp, hp, hp, spere, JIP, forward+hp, hp, bk
woe, see what you mean by advanced! lol
but I personally like mine, as I think the Xray helps more in those fights than comboing
Omg I remember that challaege. Once I got the hang of it though, I pretty much had to remain defensive. Wish I could show my recent attempt though. I used Cyrax and it was not as hard, and I played on expert mode. I have combos with Cyrax that deal 85% or 90% damage using 2 bars of meter. An his unbreakable combo that deals 75% damage.
And lol.
But I'll totally attempt SSFIV again. Maybe you could show me some strats. And I'll write a guide on how to use Liu if you want as well against each character.
try the boards and the wiki at shoryuken, there's loads of info there
Ah I know about them. Cool.
yeah, there're even strategy boards for the main fighting games with character specific forums
Ah that's good. Well, they host or sponcer tournaments, so they pretty much have to.
oh yeah they do don't they?
also, have you checked out marvel VS capcom 3? out of the 3 games we've talked about I think its the fastest, also the one with the funniest fighting game character ever
Yup they do. I'm just happy they began supporting MK as well since noone took the Franchise seriously with the previous games.
But, I honestly hate that game. Marbel vs. Capcom 2 is waaaaaaay better IMO. First, the character roster was lame. Second, the fighting mecanics just doesn't feel right to me. Now the game I need to pick up is Tekken tag 2. I've noticed it's using the fighting engine of Tekken 6. And I'm still waiting for Namko to release their version of Tekken vs. Street Fighter.
nah, I personally think its a lot smoother than MVC2, hard to say which I like better
controls wise definitely MVC3, as its a lot easier to get the hang of, also the sounds are just a lot better imo
but deadpool is awesome
nah, see that's another problem, the sound effects sound too cartoonish to me. That's why it's hard to take it seriously. And that's interesting because I thought that the mechanics in MVC 2 were much easier to grasp for me.
how does it sound cartoonish? lol sounds almost exactly like the newer crossover games, unless you were on the dynamic sounds
it actually sounds almost exactly like tatsunoko VS capcom
Hmm, well the punches when a character gets hit just sounds funny to me. And actually that's true. that's why I like the sound effects on MK 9 cuz they sound realistic. especially the bone crunching sounds during the xray moves.
yeah but bare in mind though I don't think the sounds in the capcom games were meant to be realistic....in fact me personally I think they're supposed to give you that partial anime feel
MK9 on the other hand, know where I can get a rip of the sounds and voices? because some of those kick ass! lol
Ah, that's a good point. I honestly didn't think about that. And, NRS really payed attention to detail when it came to sound effects in this game.
I can't wait till Injustice comes out.
yeah that one sounds like its gonna be fun
but seriously I might rip the sounds out of MK9 to increase my sound library
That'll be badass. man I want the soundpack for MK 4. Wonder where I can find it.
lol why MK4?
also did you check outmy MGS recording? what'd you think if so?
Is Heavy Rain and the Walking dead accessible to the blind?
what are those? never heard of them
I heard of those games, but never seen gameplay on youtube.
And MK 4 because I love those funny sounds.
oh, those heh
I think there was actually a program built for MK4 sound modding at one point, not sure where it went though
I'm totally blind, and I play all kinds of games, to fighting, and sports, to adventure..
If anyone on here wants to add me as a friend, my user name is staindaddict66
Maybe we can play sometime. I just preordered the new Injustice game from the people that made mortal Kombat.. I can't wait for it.
hey, just wondering if you're up for a few UMVC rounds sometime if you have it? might be getting it soon
At Stained Addict, wich version did you preorder. If I had the money, I would have bought the battle edition because it comes with the fight stick.
If you have MK 9 on the PS3, my psn is deathrattleead
What's UMVC? I probably should know this, but I'm drawing a blank. lol
@corpse-grinder, I preordered the regular copy. I couldn't afford the other edditions. I did want the collectors eddition, cause they had a statue of Batman, and some other cool stuff. Wasn't really interested in the fight stick. Maybe when it comes out though, we can play a few matches. Like I said, my ID is staindaddict66, so feel free to add me.
Talk soon.
UMVC is ultimate marvel VS capcom
AH, yes. I have that.
awesome! we should play online if I can get a copy of it like I've been planning to
Absolutely. Add me, so I can accept you. Or, when the game comes out, email me at staindaddict@juno.com
I have messengers too, all my info is in my profile.
yeah, I'm just waiting for the price to go down a bit first, don't have much spending cash these days
Hi Matt. I've played both Heavy Rain and The Walking Dead games. They're terrific. I do have some slight periferal vision, and so I could play them reasonably well. Unfortunately both rely a lot on quicktime events, and there aren't any sound queues. The Walking Dead uses a point and click interface too, and hovering the cursor over an object illisits no audio queues. The Walking Dead wasn't so bad for me because all the quicktime events display in the same place each time. With Heavy rain though, the button prompts dart all over the screen. REALLY difficult. That said, maybe you have ways of dealing with such things that I can't even imagine. If you had a sighted person playing with you that would work, then they could just tell you what to press and when. There is another alternative however. There's a website http://www.longplays.net This website is dedicated to playthroughs (without rediculous youtube commentators) of games. Both the Walking Dead and Heavy Rain are on that site. Even if you can't play it, you can experience the awesomeness of those two games, especially the Walking Dead.
Corpse, speaking of quicktime events, you mentioned you played God of War. How do you deal with quicktime events?
hey, just thought of something
if you have a bit of vision, did you ever think of rying out the yakuzagames? they're quite good
plus whenever there are quick times there is always a sound that lets you know its a quick time
The Blind Guardian,
Thanks for getting back to me re: Heavy Rain and The Walking Dead.
Oddly enough I kind of like ridiculous comentators such as The Rad Brad (his coments are quite funny at times), the only trouble with The Walking dead was that when being attacked by the police officer-zombie, it was impossible to grab the shotgun/shell to shoot him, since the cursor would not move ot the proper place (at least not on IOS, and that's the only version I could play, since I don't have a console) I've seen the first part the Rad Brad's playthrough of Heavy rain and it seems interesting, though I've heard that the controlls are quite irritating.
Even when playing a game with sighted people, I still feel like I'm not getting the full effect. What would be really neat is if the cutsceens were audio-described.
Now that would be awesome.
Have you tried any action/stealth games such as Splinter Cell conviction? I've seen some playthroughs, and it seems amazing, (though I would never have time to play a game like that and get really into it, and if I did, I wouldn't be able to get out).
Do you know of any other story-driven games such as Heavy Rain, or The Walking Dead?
The Blind Guardian, Thanks for longplays.org. i found a great playthrough of The Walking dead on there. Just for confirmation in Episode 3, when there's a walker trapped under the RV and kenny is about to kill it, who does Lily shoot? Kenny and Doug sound the same so it's hard to tell who's who.
just wondering has anyone heretried playing ninja gaiden 3? someone found with experimentation that the guiding camera actually turns you in the right way to go, you just need to adjust it a little
Matt, I don't recall the part you're talking about specifically. I think it's during the moment where Lilly shoots one of your companions, and if so, it's either Carly or the other guy - I'm sorry I can't recall his name). It would have depended on who you saved in episode 1.
There are lots of great story-driven games out there. I'm not relaly sure what to recommend, because I don't know of your capabilities. That. There's the mass effect games 1-3, all of which have great stories. There is another Heavy Rain-Esque game coming out soon. it's called Beyond: Two Souls. it's made by the same company who did Heavy Rain. There's also Indigo Prophecy, also by the same company. If I think of any others I'll let you know.
I haven't played any but the first of the Splinter Cell games. But I have played games with elements of stealth. I love being stealthy because in many games it allows me to overhear conversations, thus deepening my enjoyment of the story. But I like action more, only because it takes way less time.
Memoku, I was sort of interested in the Yakuza games up until I realized there's a lot of text to read through, and what voice acting there is is in Japanese.
yeah, but as I'v said though for most of the games there's a guide by someone named patrick, he goes in to some pretty deep detail on the cutscenes
also do you have enough vision to at least see what you're doing when it comes to games? because you'd need it
also, more info on ninja gaiden 3, it is indeed quite playable from my current experience which is only the demo but I plan on getting the game soon
The Blind Guardian, Thanks for the info Regarding Heavy Rain.
I have heard of Mass Effect and other games such as the Indigo Prophecy. are games such as The Walking Dead and Heavy rain available for PC? After reading an Amazon review, it seems that the PC version of the walking dead has rather bad controls and no re-maping of keys.
Yes, in the walking dead, that was exactly the moment I was thinking of. BY the way, do we ever find out who Lee murdered?
Matthew
Oh yes, Matt, we do indeed find out. though I don't know it's a missable bit of story. The only problem with watching someone else play a game is you don't get to say "hey, talk to that person again, you might have missed something!"
The Walking Dead is indeed on PC, though I played it on PS3 so I can't really comment on the controls. The Mass Effect series is also on PC, though you'd need to be sure your computer can run it. That's the downfall of PC gaming. The nice thing about the Mass Effectseries is there's a ton of dialog, including all of the primary codex entries, which are fully voiced. The codex is an encyclopedia of sorts for the game which really deepens the story. The secondary entries aren't voiced, but all the content is available on the Mass Effect Wikki. I find it all invaluable because I read very slow visually. The mass effects are also on longplays.
Memoku, I can see enough to generally understand what I'm doing. I do play games pretty slowly, but I have enough vision to navigate environments and the like. I lose out on understanding what's going on during some instences because my vision simply can't keep up, but I usually get the point, or ask my wife to describe something every once in a while.
yeah you may enjoy yakuza 3 then if you want to give it a chance, its pretty cheap if you can find a copy
the walkthrough is pretty detailed, if your vision is good enough to read subtitles then you'll be set, if not its still pretty fun to play, especially if you like games with lots of side stuff to do
Ninja Gaiden 3? As in the NES game?
Heh. Had to do it. I'm kind of old school like that.
hahaha nice, nope not that one, PS3
but nes had its fun parts back in the day
good times....
Since we're talking about adventure games, what are some of the games that can be played with out sight at all? And that have really good sounds. I heard that Metal Gear Solid can be played even if you're not sighted.
well I did put a sample up somewhere in this topic, Iplayed until the first boss with an emulator
Corpse-Grinder, the Metal Gear Solid game that Moumoku-Ninja played is for the PSX, I don't think other games in the series are so blind-friendly.
The Blind Guardian, Thanks for the info on The Walking Dead. I think I may have missed some important story parts, since youtube was working Very slowly when I was watching playthroughs.
I've been watching some playthroughs of DeadSpace 3, and I think it has a great storyline. I hope it would be playable for you, since the acting is great as well as the combat. What may not work well is the fact that there are many nooks and cranies which, if explored, would yield extra ammo, medpacks, etc.
This is a little O.T since this isn't a PS3 game, but i downloaded Infinity Blade for my Iphone and oddly enough I've been able to play it, since it is primarily a fighting game in which all you do is slash, block, and excecute combos. I haven't checked with sighted friends for the screen layout, but the controlls for slashing seem to be at the bottom of the screen, and at the very left (with the home button to the right in Landscape mode) is a D-Pad. It's free this week, so I'd recommend anyone interested download it. Note though that the taunts that the God King gives are in a Nonsense language and are subtitled.
I've continued to watch Heavy Rain playthroughs, and am enjoying them immensely. What is the figure that the Origami Killer puts into the hands of his victims?
Matthew
@mat, actually no, apparently MGS2 and 3 are about as accessible as the first one are, but MGS4 just blows accessibility out the window
Ihaven't confirmed this but I plan to soon
Guys,
MLB the show 2013 is coming on march 5th. Just thought I'd let ya know, some people find it hard to play, but if you're really into baseball, and you concentrate real hard, it's worth getting. I preordered it, and Injustice. Can't wait for that one either.
Moumoku, thanks for the info regarding MGS, apparently I was wrong. Is deus ex, human revolution accessible?
I haven't even heard of that, lol what is it?
I've played Human Revolution (and the original two games in the trilogy on PC). I'd say as far as gameplay goes it's probably about as accessible as most other first person shooters. The problem is there's a lot of invantory management and RPG-style upgrades to deal with. That and while there is a ton of spoken dialog in the game, there's a massave amount of text via magazines, computers and datacubes too to read. It's all very interesting, but it's not at all voiced. I don't know of anywhere where there's a text online repository of the text, though I know in terms of datafiles and in-game newspapers there's some on the Deus Ex Wikki. It's a spectacular game though. Fun gameplay and a great story in a near-future world.
That said, I read somewhere that there's a person working at making the original Deus Ex on PC accessible. It is one of the most spectacular games I've ever played, even with its interface which is a little dated by today's standards. The entirety of the script, including all emails and datacubes is available online. It's got an amazing cyberpunk story with a lot of philosophical and well-written dialog. I don't know if that person has begun making it accessible, or if it's just a thought, but if it ever happens blind gamers will be in for a huge treat. One thing no audio game I've played has done is tell a good story.
damn if that ever happens, that would be totally amazing.
I agree, the closest I've seen audiogame-wise is Sryth, though that was text-based and had no Audio.
Do you think that Metal Gear Rising: Revengance is accessible?
Maybe Platinum Games have given it some thought, (though that's pretty unlikely).
Personally I'm more of a story-driven gamer rather than a shoot-everything-possible gamer. If I were to get into gaming, I'd rather play a shooter with a great storyline (such as Human revolution) rather than an over-grown franchise (such as Call Of Duty. Not meaning to hate, It just seems that games from the franchise keep coming out, and the only thing that's focused on is shooting weapons, etc, and story is discarded. Note that I have not seen playthroughs and could be wrong, just an opinion.
Have any of you tried Arkham City? I've heard the voice acting is great and the missions are pretty sweet as well.
no, its been confirmed that MGR is even less accessible than the ones that came before
I see. What about something like Knights of the Old Republic or Darksiders, are such games accessible on either PC or PSC?
The problem with 3D controlled games like those mentioned is there's often so much happening that navigating through their environments would likely be quite dificult.
I'm playing metal gear rising right now, but I also have a little bit of vision. It's accessible with my limited vision for sure. There's a ton of sound queues, even sometimes for quicktime events, which are pretty forgiving in their own rite. The only things to read are the menu and upgrades screans, but if you play on easy, it's not that big a deal. There's a ton of story in the game, but unlike previous metal gear games it's mostly delegated to the codec conversations. The cutscenes are much shorter and infrequent, but the codec holds tons of story the average action gamer will ignore. And of course it's all fully voiced.
I have also played a large portion of Arkum city, and it's probably about as accessible as any other 3d game. Problem with it is there's a lot of rooftop traversal, and it's very open-world. Easy to get lost if you don't look at the map and other visual queues. Great game with fantastic voice acting though. I think the combat would be reasonably acessible on its own.
I'm considering picking up the newest naruto storm game but unsure of how accessible the story mode will be, if I do I'll post here
Moumoku, How would I install the PSX emulator you're using? Would I need to purchase the actual game discs, or are they downloadable?
Also regarding 3d games would something like Prototype be accessible?
I looked at some Deux gameplay, and it seems to me that it would be really difficult impossible to make accessible, since you need to hide behind object, and throw objects at guards to distract them, as well as hack keypads, and plant and disarm mines. Then again, you never know, maybe the accceblifier will come up with some workarounds.
it depends on your definition of accessible, like for metal gear solid I had to get some sited help to play through it
the PSX emulator, you will either need to download the images or use the real discs
Oh gosh, I love mk, scorpion is the best, but that guy off of god of war is pretty nice, and my fav player off of tekken, hmm, think marshal law, lol, but I like alot of the players, yes, jin is pretty good, used to listen to my brothers playing solid, lol, at least thats what they called it, and I allways liked it, but didn't know it was made for us to play.
I never really liked scorpion much as a fighting game player myself, had too many online experiences with spear and teleport spamming
Moumoku,
Thanks for the PSX info.
I saw a bit of MGR, and it does seem fun-to-play, except the ending was pretty disappointing for me. Maybe as TheBlindGuardian pointed, it's because I skipped a large amount of the playthrough, in which story unfolded. Nonetheless, I'm not a fan of those "I know this man killed many, but to me He is my hero!" endings.
Just saw the ending for The Walking Dead, and it is pretty fantastic, though quite sad.
I'm excited for the second season, which will come out in the fall (Though I won't play it myself, and will resort to watching playthroughs)
The thing with games is that I don't think blind people get the full effect, even if audio-description were implemented in cutsceens and the games became fully accessible. We'd still be missing a little something, like we do in films with Audio Description.
I can't put my finger on what it is that we're missing.
Just my thoughts.
yes we may be missing something, but in my opinion I'd say count your blessings and be glad we can even play the games we can in the first place
I totally agree.
My previous post was just speculation.
oh, news for anyone who hasn't heard, the ninja gaiden 3 razor's edge demo just came out a few days ago on PSN and Xbox live
new weapons, a level system, another playable character, decapitation, and probably other new things I don't know about
I'm gonna get it later if I can and check it out myself
Due to my interest in high level playing on MK 9, it finally paid off!
I will be going to evo this year and will be sponcered! And ugh at Scorpions spear and teleport punch spamming.
holey shit congrats! who do you main?
I main Cyrax. And thanks! :d
yeah, this is very exciting!
I like to play as liu kang but I'm no true hardcore gamer, I just play for fun
hell I don't even know what kind of play he's intended for, I mostly charge because he's got some pretty good speed on him
Lol he's meant to be a rushdown character, since his normals and bloc strings are fast. He's a pretty good zoner, but other characters could beat him though, so that's usually not a good strategy.
I'm not known for good strategic thinking, lol
lol, its all good. I like high level play though.
hey, do you play street fighter IV? if yes who do you like to play as
able all the way man!
ah, i've been away from my ps3 for a fair few months now, but love MK.
hopefully i'll be able to get good some day. :P
injustice looks fantastic, i've been dying for a game with decent story that's playable.
any suggestions?
to be honest i'm up tof anything, just want to expand my collection. :P
oh, injustice I have a feeling i'm going to get next month but I can't decide between ninja gaiden 3 and injustice, I want them both just as badly
Omg Injustice is totally going to be awesome. Especially in the tournament scene. Going to pop it in and head on to practice up to level up.
And I can help you get better Icon. On MK that is. lol I'm going to a major tourney in Las Vegas. Lol I'm still so hyped about it.
for anyone who didn't know, there is an injustice demo coming out this tuesday for PSN
Is Injustice: Gods Amongs us accessible? It's a mortal-kombat-style fighter with DC characters.
It's for the PS3, Xbox 360, and WiiU. It also seems to have a pretty good storyline and some excellent acting.
Just curious.
yes, as far as I've played which is only the story mode and the fighting, it is completely accessible except for the little pre-fight mini games in story mode
haven't tried star labs yet though
I heard that some star labs require you to walk around and stuff. Haven't tried this myself. overall, this game is awesome except the interactibles are hard to use since it's difficult to know when you're next to them.
My main is Aquaman right now.
yeah some of the interactions are hard to pull off, but I'll definitely say this....I love the stage transitions! some of those are just epic
Ah yeah! Those are no doubt amazing! I love linking them at the end of custom made combos.
haven't actually tried to find many of those yet, but I might start if I can find a main for myself
Has anyone tried any of the Metro games? I think some parts (killing bat-scorpion monsters), si doable, since the sound panns, and when it is in the center, you can shoot them and that's is. Not sure about knocking out enemies, or metro-tunnel navigation since I haven't played it myself.
do you mean metroid? or is there actually something called metro, never heard of it before
anyways, possibly about to pick up the metal gear solid HD collection, lets see how this goes
I mean metro, as in metro2033, not metroid.
hmm I've never heard of this one, might have to go look it up
I have. I haven't played it however. THe problem I see would be that which would be an issue for most first person - or indeed most 3d games. The getting around isn't going to be easy. But then it sounds like some of you are pretty avid gamers, even without too much sight. I don't have much myself, but I don't think I'd attempt playing the types of games I enjoy without what sight I do have.
To anyone that plays Injustice, there's a new patch coming out October 1st that will feature something that I suggested at evo. The guys at NRS were kind enough to include sound cues that will let you know if you're near range of an interactible. Obviously there are several things that are not accessible in this game. However, the fact that NRS added this feature is a step in the right direction for blind gamers and it shows that NRS does listen to their followers. This was added so that I would have a fair advantage when participating in tournaments, but it is obviously something that casual players can enjoy as well. Now that I keep in contact with NrS, I will attempt to make sure things get added little by little. It's probably better to take it slowly as not to overwhelm them with this stuff, even though a lot of the features we ask may not take as much work as nurfing or buffing characters.
holy crap, seriously? that's really interesting
is it just interactables? or is it there for stage transitions too
Just for interactibles, since every transition is pretty much in either corner depending on the arenas. yeah it is. I can't wait for next week!
that's gonna be kick ass!
well I have something new to mess around with now, along with ninja gaiden
Can't wait for the release of the patch! It'll totally change the gameplay significantly.
On another note, I along with my friend that sponcered me to attend evo are looking into reaching out to RockStar studios to see hif they can make GTAV accessible. What are some of the things that they can do to make it playable to us? I'm looking for ideas. And, if you have any, drop them in here.
Hmm, so no excitement about this feature then? Disappointing.
No wonder developers don't give a shit about doing this stuff for blindies.
Corpse-grinder. Audio cues for enemie locations, and a gps, with explicit turn-by-turn, as well as a map which tells you where events are, (in the game missions are marked by Xs as far as I can understand.) Something like X, to the west, would work, then the map could prompt you Press a for direction, at which point the GPS would give you Turn-by-turn directions to your destination. Another thing that would be helpful would be alerts to esll you when you're about to collide with another vehicle/person. A ding for Quick-time events, and the button to press for x to happen (e.g if you're told that x=punch, and y=kick, and a=block, you could heardin:x, and be able to hit x, if your reaction time is fact enough to throw the punch. A self-voicing conversation menu would be nice, with choices read out loud when you are in conversation, e.g stern, agree, etc.
Some Audio-description of cut-sceens would be nice. It would be great to get info on when/where you'd need to jump to (there's a mission where you need to jump onto a yacht which is atop a speeding truck, and you need to time your jump just right, if they could give audio cues for jumping that would be great), Radio-station names spoken aloud would be nice as well. A description of your surroundings in detail, would be great, since I've heard that the the graphics are pretty detailed. It's great that you're reaching to Rockstar, hopefully they'l see the potential in making future offerings blind-friendly.
A notification of how far away from you the police are in chases would be nice (e.g three cars behind), and a signal when a turn onto another street is possible as well as alternative routes to locations to avoid the police.
I really really would love to see mainstream game companies at least attempt to make games more accessible to us. Having played games all my life, I've slowly begun having difficulty as graphics and hardware get more sophisticated. That said, I fear there just aren't enough of us to make the time and costworth it. Most blind people probably watch movies and/or read books, and yet audio described movies are still far from what the sighted se - often describing only the barest details. But games ... I'm not sure there are many of us - especially those who can't already see enough to play at least some games - to warrant it. I hate to be cynical, but I wouldn't be surprised. And it's too bad, too, because from what I've seen, most accessible games are ... pretty unremarkable, falling into the catagories of casual game, MMO or the occasional lackluster adventure. The only accessible game I've played that even comes close to something akin to sighted games has been The Inquisitor. Papa Sangre came close, but with its practically non-existent plot and repetitive, open environments, it's still a little far off.Great idea though.
the only games I've played that come even close to mainstream have been bokurano daibouken, and shadow line both of which are in japanese
I've actually heard of neither of those, though the language barrier would be a problem for me.
there is a language barrier if you don't speak japanese, but if you have the instant translate addon for NVDA the games are worth at least trying imo, there's actually plot in these unlike most other audio games
I haven't played them, but I've seen playthroughs, and agree that those games, though not comming close to main-stream games, do raise the bar for audio-games plot-wise.